Is Mutilate in WoW Forever?

Yes, as a 1-point Assassination talent unlocked at 20 points in beta build 1.60.1.70205. Tooltip at the talent's rank: “Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 17.2 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.”

Venom is the new Assassination 31-point talent and needs Mutilate. Tooltip: “Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 9 sec; 2 points: 12 sec; 3 points: 15 sec; 4 points: 18 sec; 5 points: 21 sec”

What happened to Dagger and Sword Specialization?

Both are gone from Combat in beta build 1.60.1.70205, together with Fist Weapon and Mace Specialization. Their place is taken by Hack and Slash, which reuses Sword Specialization's spell: “Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. Axe/Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 5% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target. Dagger/Fist: Increases your critical strike chance by 5%. Mace: Your attacks ignore 15% of your target's armor.”

WoW Forever Rogue Talent Calculator

Assassination gets Mutilate as a 1-point talent at 20 points and a new capstone, Venom, a poison finishing move that needs Mutilate. Classic's Assassination capstone, Vigor, now sits on row 5 and has 2 ranks instead of 1.

Combat drops the weapon talents (Dagger Specialization, Fist Weapon Specialization, Mace Specialization and Sword Specialization) for Hack and Slash, whose bonus depends on the weapon, and keeps Adrenaline Rush as its 31-point talent. Puncturing Wounds and Flawless Execution are new.

Subtlety now ends in Thousand Cuts, which makes Hemorrhage or Backstab cheaper while Rupture ticks; Classic's capstone Premeditation is on row 4. Cutthroat lets Backstab open up an Ambush without Stealth. Click a talent to add a point; the page address keeps your build, so you can share it.

Talent data from the current beta, build 1.60.1.70205. See also the Rogue abilities by level.

My builds

Rogue talent trees

Assassination

Combat

Subtlety

What's new for Rogue in WoW Forever

Compared with Classic Era (build 1.15.9.70003), the Rogue trees in Forever beta build 1.60.1.70205 have 10 new talents, 8 Classic talents that are gone and 6 talents with a different number of ranks. A talent counts as new when no talent of that name exists in any Classic Rogue tree.

Assassination 2 new · 0 removed · 2 re-ranked

Mutilate 1 rank · needs 20 points in Assassination
Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 17.2 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.
Venom 1 rank · needs 30 points in Assassination
Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point:
1 point : 9 sec
2 points: 12 sec
3 points: 15 sec
4 points: 18 sec
5 points: 21 sec

Different number of ranks: Vigor: 1 → 2 ranks; Improved Kidney Shot: 3 → 2 ranks.

Different row: Cold Blood: row 5 → 4; Vigor: row 7 → 5.

Moved here from another Rogue tree: Improved Gouge (from Combat).

Combat 3 new · 5 removed · 2 re-ranked

Puncturing Wounds 3 ranks · needs 5 points in Combat
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 30% and your Mutilate by 15%, and gives Backstab a 45% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Flawless Execution 1 rank · needs 15 points in Combat
Reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.
Hack and Slash 5 ranks · needs 20 points in CombatUses the spell of Classic's Sword Specialization under a new name.
Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon.
Axe/Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 5% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target.
Dagger/Fist: Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.
Mace: Your attacks ignore 15% of your target's armor.

Removed: Dagger Specialization (5 ranks), Fist Weapon Specialization (5 ranks), Mace Specialization (5 ranks), Improved Backstab (3 ranks) and Sword Specialization (5 ranks; spell reused by Hack and Slash).

Different number of ranks: Deflection: 5 → 3 ranks; Precision: 5 → 3 ranks.

Moved here from another Rogue tree: Improved Eviscerate (from Assassination).

Subtlety 5 new · 3 removed · 2 re-ranked

Dirty Tricks 2 ranks · needs 5 points in Subtlety
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 50%.
Improved Distract 2 ranks · needs 10 points in Subtlety
Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 5 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 2 levels lower.
Quietus 5 ranks · needs 25 points in Subtlety
Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 10% more damage against targets below 35% health.
Cutthroat 5 ranks · needs 25 points in Subtlety
Your Backstab has a 15% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.
Thousand Cuts 1 rank · needs 30 points in Subtlety
When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.

Removed: Improved Sap (3 ranks), Sleight of Hand (2 ranks) and Deadliness (5 ranks).

Different number of ranks: Master of Deception: 5 → 3 ranks; Opportunity: 5 → 2 ranks.

Different row: Camouflage: row 2 → 1; Setup: row 4 → 2; Improved Ambush: row 3 → 2; Heightened Senses: row 5 → 4; Premeditation: row 7 → 4.

The three 31-point talents

Each tree's bottom row opens after 30 points in that tree, so the 31st point buys its capstone.

Assassination: Venom needs 30 points in Assassination · requires 1/1 Mutilate · new in Forever
Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point:
1 point : 9 sec
2 points: 12 sec
3 points: 15 sec
4 points: 18 sec
5 points: 21 sec
Combat: Adrenaline Rush needs 30 points in Combat · also in Classic
Increases your Energy regeneration rate by 100% for 15 sec.
Subtlety: Thousand Cuts needs 30 points in Subtlety · requires 1/1 Preparation · new in Forever
When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.

Rogue FAQ

Is Mutilate in WoW Forever?: Yes, as a 1-point Assassination talent unlocked at 20 points in beta build 1.60.1.70205. Tooltip at the talent's rank: “Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 17.2 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.”
What does Venom do?: Venom is the new Assassination 31-point talent and needs Mutilate. Tooltip: “Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 9 sec; 2 points: 12 sec; 3 points: 15 sec; 4 points: 18 sec; 5 points: 21 sec”
What happened to Dagger and Sword Specialization?: Both are gone from Combat in beta build 1.60.1.70205, together with Fist Weapon and Mace Specialization. Their place is taken by Hack and Slash, which reuses Sword Specialization's spell: “Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. Axe/Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 5% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target. Dagger/Fist: Increases your critical strike chance by 5%. Mace: Your attacks ignore 15% of your target's armor.”

More for Rogue

Rogue abilities by level: every spell, what is new and what changed since Classic Era.
Races that can be Rogues in Forever: Human, Orc, Dwarf, Night Elf, Undead, Gnome, Troll, High Order Skyborne (new), Windshaper Skyborne (new). See all WoW Forever races and racials.
Talent changes by beta build, for every class.

About the data

Forever talents, ranks and tooltips are read from the beta client (build 1.60.1.70205); the Classic comparison uses the Classic Era client (build 1.15.9.70003). Both come from wago.tools. Talents can still change before the November 4, 2026 launch. Last updated 2026-10-02.

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